System change, with Tim Smit of The Eden Project

In this episode, Marcelle chats with her friend Sir Tim Smit, the visionary behind the Eden Project – an educational charity, connects us with each other and the living world, exploring how we can work towards a better future.

Marcelle & Tim discuss real system change, what makes a good philanthropist, the future of charity post Covid, and why we should all be a bit more Dutch. 

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